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DouglasEW's avatar

I was confused initially. People directing traffic on roadworks? I remember those from decades ago in the UK but have not seen one in... I really can't work it out.

UK roadworks have automated systems with traffic lights, operating at all hours, in all weather, handling multiple junctions as necessary, with automated traffic spotters to prioritise when and for how long the traffic lights change.

These are a standard hire item just like any other construction tool, also owned by the larger companies. They are the first thing to be set up after the roadworks signs and the last to be taken away. Cheap(ish), reliable, safe. To pay people to do the job...we'll, it's archaic.

Frank's avatar

I remember driving past a construction crew operating pneumatic drills (aka jackhammers) blasting into the street. The men humped the jackhammers with both hands, and their full body weight, There was one woman on the crew. She had the jackhammer in one hand, and the other hand on her hip. (Which is an accident waiting to happen).

Sled Driver's avatar

And these lollypop people have reached the pinnacle of their career...

Lena's avatar

My 96 year old mum has her own Lebanese wisdom on this: they perform two roles. Outside the tent and inside the tent. Seriously, the makeup, the surgery, the tight pants.. enough.

Ian Guthrie's avatar

THE FLIP SIDE TO LOLLYPOP PEOPLE IS THE USE OF AUTOMATED SYSTEMS THAT USE SOME VERSION OF AI BUT WITHOUT THE INTELLIGENCE. THESE SYSTEMS HAVE MOTORISTS SITTING WAITING FOR THE LIGHTS TO CHANGE (no foxy fems here) FOR FIXED TIME PERIODS, USUALLY FAR TOO LONG INSTEAD OF USING A PAR OF EYES TO SEE THAT THE ROAD IS CLEAR FOR A SIGNAL CHANGE. THIS IS HAPPENING A LOT IN RURAL NSW!

DouglasEW's avatar

In the UK, all the lights have traffic detectors that will switch the lights as soon as practicable, sometimes as soon as you turn up, if traffic is light. It doesn't require AI or even a computer, it's a very simple switching and timing issue that electronics alone has been solving for a hundred years.

I'm astonished that Australia is backward in using these: the UK has had them for decades.

Empathic Listener's avatar

In New Zealand the proportion of senior roles occupied by females far exceeds the female proportion of officers over all. It appears that women are given jobs that protect them from front-line danger and are promoted instead of men who have much more experience and knowledge. The organisation has to hire females due to quota expectations but the only safe way to have higher proportions of females is to promote them into central command posts.

A bit like the women on road teams; they are of little use digging, shoveling and operating heavy machinery and they don't much like getting dirty, so give them stop/go lollipop roles and pay them just as much or more than those doing the hard physical work. Sure, stop/go controlling is not easy, being in the sun, rain, wind, fumes, dust and suffering some drivers' ire. It deserves to be paid well but not necessarily as much as those doing more physical, dirty and dangerous work.

More Equal Animals's avatar

They do not look like that where I live.

Ken Lydon's avatar

Women want it all, not content with being doctors , lawyers , company CEOs ,or highly educated academics etc. they now want to control the last bastion of real men ,the trades .

In the mean time a very important fact is overlooked , which is , who is going to produce the next generation if young women won’t? Since they will be far too busy with their careers.

When will we get a strong government that takes this issue seriously and makes changes .

Tim's avatar

One of my female neighbours is a tradie. She was showered with encouragement and awards because she was female (and naturally assumed that she was God's gift) but didn't last long in her trade because of the uncompromising physical and mental demands. Judging by the quality of workmanship on her own property, I wouldn't let her work on my property on WHS grounds alone. She is now employed in a teaching role training apprentices. There's nothing wrong with that but it is delusional to think that 'gender equity' is achievable or desirable in the trades.

Kate's avatar

Teaching apprentices? If her jobs weren’t up to a high standard what is she going to teach?

The standards sure are falling

Ken Lydon's avatar

This is usually what happens , a typical women tradesmen can’t keep up with her fellow workers and is given a job in the office, or holding a sign , or teaching the trade that she failed at .

When will women admit that they can’t do all the thing men can do . But they don’t have to , they just have to do what nature equipped them for ,having children, what’s wrong with that ?

Frank's avatar

I remember driving past a construction crew operating pneumatic drills (aka jackhammers) blasting into the street. The men humped the jackhammers with both hands, and their full body weight, There was one woman on the crew. She had the jackhammer in one hand, and the other hand on her hip. (Which is an accident waiting to happen).

SJ's avatar
Mar 20Edited

PRESENTEE-ISM?!

Now it's patriarchal oppression to demand working on a deadline, consistent attendance every day, and being solely responsible for your results?!

The deadline is still THERE, intersectional feminist academics!? The consequences of the project being delayed is still REAL and IMPACTS others, "Girls"?! NO WORK WORKS THIS WAY.

AND when the job you want to "Share" is excavating a road or demolition, the impact on people driving on that road is fixed, deadly and measurable. How DARE you demand women get to avoid this reality of the costs suffered, when the people their absence harms by delaying the project, don't get THAT luxury :(

Do I even need to go into how part timers are cheaper to hire than full timers, and don't require benefits? This article's un-thought out argument isn't even worth my response.

GAWD, I hate that men are going to assume this is the prototype for women, because high status "Elite" journalists (who are conditioned to accept low/or no salary, in exchange for byline prestige) say it is. Majority of women are not like this. They can't afford to be.

Unlike this journalist, and the academics she interviewed. Badass Girlbosses unite. You have nothing to lose but your reputations.

JJ's avatar

okay what the fuck, she straight up admitted to sexual assault on TV?? i'm not Australian - what are the laws around stuff like sexual battery?

Bettina Arndt's avatar

In theory this should be sexual assault but they would never take action against a woman in this situation... particularly with this type of "celebrity". Rules for the girls....

Sean Griobhtha's avatar

"“Fascism with a Feminist Face”

(cf Naomi Wolf, Project Syndicate, 2014)

Women as well suck up the false narratives. If you follow TV and movie trends, you’ll see the completely false narrative that women have been involved in combat and special operations since 9/11, wielding knives, automatic weapons, and krav maga all over the Middle East for decades. The media, from news to entertainment, enable and perpetuate these falsehoods. The truth of the matter is that no established force utilizes women in the field for close or front line combat (including the Israelis) – and this has nothing to do with chauvinism, and a lot to do with the fact that women just don’t want to involve themselves in war until they’ve been programmed to want it – and yet, they still suck at it. Women in rebel forces often participate in front line combat, but that’s more due to a desperate need than a want or skill – they still suck at it. Women have been allowed to become Navy SEALS since 2016, yet no woman participates in that front line combat. In Afghanistan, the US Army attempted an all woman unit (trained to a lower standard than men because they couldn’t carry the weight nor meet the physical requirements) searching for weapons and conducting house to house searches. The experiment had to be terminated early because they were firing at each other and shooting friendlies, because they were operating in panic mode. The fact is the overwhelming majority of women choose not to participate in direct proportion to the amount of combat going on at the time (Judith Stiehm, Arms and the Enlisted Woman, Philadelphia, Temple University Press, 1989, p100; Newsweek, 5.8.991; and Laura Miller, “Feminism and the Exclusion of Army Women from Combat”, Harvard University, John M Olin Institute for Strategic Studies, 1997-8, p19; all in The Privileged Sex by Martin van Creveld). Why is this relevant?"

https://griobhtha1.substack.com/p/x-rubicon-lies-and-damned-lies

Bettina Arndt's avatar

Thanks for posting that. Very interesting!

Sean Griobhtha's avatar

I enjoy your writing on this issue. Have you ever read Pink & White Tyranny by Harriet Beecher Stowe?

Avi's avatar

How many men are missing out on employment as lollipop operators or even admin in construction due to the ‘need’ to hire women to get the contracts?

Will Whitman's avatar

This is embedded institutionally yet it is not hard to notice how destructive it is to kick men down the ladder of life and thereby eliminate them as potential partners.

Avi's avatar
May 23Edited

It can lead to their elimination literally. 😥. Can render them homeless, in situations were they need to commit offences to survive, and if incarcerated the suicide rate can increase 30 fold upon release. For women release from prison reduces suicide to zero.

As they become long term unemployed they become less likely to be employed.

The consequences of such a wrongful but seeming trivial act is really significant.

Jack Jones's avatar

The feminazis now control every aspect of society.

Michael Lardelli's avatar

I keep saying that we are now living in a matriarchy. And the evidence keeps accumulating.

Charlie's avatar

I used to work the stop-go in my early 20s. Wasn’t the boon now, just adhoc work when council was fixing roads. One thing i remember is men couldn’t have long hair and girls had a tight bun. Now they have hair down to their bums. Where’s the safety? Even female cops? unprofessional. But yeh when they were building light rail i would ride across the blind bus lane and they weren’t even watching/ doing their job. If I knew it was 120k I would have been doubly pissed.

Phil Shehan's avatar

Pardon me if I go off topic with another episode in my regular series of comments to The Age/SMH stories challenging feminist dogma which they refuse to publish.

The article is 'What Jefferson wants boys and parents to know about the manosphere'

by Wendy Tuohy, a senior writer focusing on social issues and those impacting women and girls.

I was surprised at this as Jacqueline Maley publishes on nothing else.

My unpublished comment:

Perhaps if there was less vilification of masculinity young men would not be seeking affirmation in the 'manosphere'.

At a secondary school in Warrnambool boys were told to stand in assembly and apologise for the "behaviours of their gender' to the girls. That kind of thing happened in Germany in the 1930s and 40s, although the distinction was not about gender.

Then there is a meme circulating in which women are asked whether they would rather be stuck on an island with a bear or a man. Many women think it clever to choose the creature which could literally tear them limb from limb. And no, that is not the man.

The article notes that 13-year-old main character from Netflix global hit Adolescence, commits life-changing violence without remorse when a classmate rejects him. Where did the idea for this story come from? From the zeitgeist whereby boys must apologise for who they are? Is this series attempting a self-fulfilling prophesy?

The article mentions research by the Australian Institute of Criminology. In one forum I have quoted data from this source on violence by women against men. It was not allowed to be published.

Wendy Tuohy is a senior writer focusing on social issues and those impacting women and girls.Connect via X or email.

wendy.tuohy@theage.com.au.

There is another example that I should have included but forgot. Does not matter as it just would have been another nail in the rejection coffin:

Following the murder of Sarah Everard in 2021, UK Green Party peer Baroness Jenny Jones suggested a 6 p.m. curfew for men to improve women's safety and spark debate.

Supporters of this idea, such as Baroness Jones and various commentators, have clarified that it is often a "symbolic" proposal rather than a literal one, aimed at highlighting the need for men to take responsibility for safety, rather than requiring women to constantly alter their behavior.

Pop Culture Representation

The concept has been explored in media, such as the 2024 Paramount+ thriller series Curfew, which depicts a dystopian society under a "Women's Safety Act" where all men are forced to wear ankle tags and adhere to a 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. curfew.

Avi's avatar

Women wanted equality. Men were oppressed for many years with responsibility for women’s safety. Fathers would often tell daughters the skirt was too short, no you can’t date that boy he is no good etc.

Their complaint was that it was controlling, they wanted the from to decide for themselves. That comes with the responsibility for their own decisions. They are free to curfew themselves.

4RH's avatar

Not one feminist in history has wanted anything remotely resembling equality.

DouglasEW's avatar

Well said and worth us all repeating it again and again wherever we see the conflation of feminism with equality.

For some years now, feminist organisation have not claimed equality. The global controllers of feminism changed it to equity: a far more slippery term which openly permits female supremacy 'justified' under the same set of historical lies feminists have promoted for over a century.

DouglasEW's avatar

Many do but many more have a pathological fear of men. I think the majority of feeling is actually closer to disdain. A society in which one half of a dimorphic species has disdain for the other is, as we are seeing, a society in terminal decline.

Boris A. Doyle's avatar

An unjustified fear.

You can see this in Iran, 1978.

No fear.

In 1978 there was no fear.

Now there is.