I am happy this is now talked about not brushed under but still far to go. Have I had a sad story to share. my brother killed himself a short time ago. He worked at olympic dam in south australia. He had worked there for a long time and was being treated unfair because he was male not diverse. His friends for work saw the abuse of leaders who have gender incentives for acting this way trying to make case to fire him. friends offered support his job was given to a less qualified female and hurt his relationship with family as impact as force him to work away from home. leaders at bhp, vps heads general managers have diversity targets and they are already at comfortable part of career they want to protect themselves most have no integrity so they do what they are told and treat non diverse people in a bad way. it is abuse they see males as obstacle between them and bonus and they treat them very poorly and abuse them. ones with integrity who stand up get sacked. Search for the case of Burak Powers. they fight over gay or female other diverse people when they see dollar signs and it disgusting tokenism. Male are made to site roles and females given priority for roles not at site so they stay home with family. this was happened to my brother. This is so dangerous now because bhp are deciding who is allowed to spend time with their family and who is not, instead of make roles based on most qualified and best people. Always is the men who end up worse for this with long time away from family. They have BOS now which tries to make roles just procedures so anybody can do them even with low ability. This is so they do not need to hire any more for ability so they hire with gender race sometimes disability on there minds what ever will make them look good and progressive. BHP are doing this it is terrible and nobody had courage speak up because bhp punish so bad.
My brother thankfully left us treasure trove of documents emails and photos and recorded conversations and things. We are preparing this with professional and media person but not yet do we want BHP to know who we yet are until we progress more in this. We just want to get the word out to find many other people are want to come forward. I do not want to share my real name yet because I who work still for bhp and they would punish me and other family. that is how wrong this become that bhp go after people becasue they think they are always right. I have tried to tell this story on glass door and seek but they took it down because it does not fit the agenda. this seems is a fair article website and thank you for leaving it up.
The sentences i have written and spelling has been changed to protect my identity. you will read this and think I am silly for bad grammar and words but this is intentional word choice, sentences and punctuation have been changed to protect my identity. If you had seen what I had seen you would know they will try to find out identity every way they can. bhp will get professional to look at writing style and match with emails they have i have seen this before. bhp if you are trying to decide who I am you waste you're time. I to keep sharing details as advice comes and we start to try avenge our family member for this sick evil mike vandita edgar and wont even name people officer who like to be pretend to be god instead of just be a business.
please comment if you have been hurt by bhp for this and we will find safe way to talk. this posting will be more often soon as we need to talk more about this publicly to put stop to this abuse.
You speak the truth but I feel it is futile to go against them. I was passed over and told I lacked the experience etc. etc. only for the role to be manipulated and given to someone with no experience but fit into the diversity requirements. Another colleague who was told the same BS challenged it further and the person hiring finally admitted that they were told to hire a diverse candidate. i then found out the person hired was approached and told to apply and knew they were getting the job.
There are plenty of others like this. I know another guy that was perfect fit for the role, applied for it and management actually wanted to award the role but GM level blocked it saying " not enough diverse people applied and to re-advertise it". Even after it was re-advertised the same person (who reapplied after i told him the job was re-advertised not management) was picked as the ideal person. once again the GM pulls rank and this time says am we will just continue with him acting in the role which means he can do the job for less pay til we find a diverse candidate to do it.
Same thing happened with the Senior role in the same team. They wanted a female in the role so they prolong acting positions til they find one. If they cannot find one then the role gets restructured to suit a candidate and then you are expected to support this person.
Another person who applied for a Lead PM role didn't get it only to find that a college graduate (that looked about 15) got awarded the role. As expected he was hired in a senior role with expectations to support this person and her 1-up protected her from upper management. When the project fell apart the 1-up got fired for incompetence and her protection was gone and she got let go shortly after.
Another woman was hired as a PM. I spoke with an old colleague of hers from a previous job and he mentioned that when she got the job she boasted how she got it cos she is a woman. She had no PM skills and zero people skills by my standards and delivered zero projects. This person then was changing her flights without approval flying out every Thursday taking Friday's off when she should be working. When she got caught she said "don't call me I'm on stress leave" suddenly. She quit a week later knowing she would be reprimanded or sacked. She came back to BHP and is currently a Maintenance Superintendent in the mines. How did she get that job with minimal experience - cos she is diverse. Now they can't get rid of her.
I heard another story about a female complaining of being passed over due to sexual discrimination and then if she kept her mouth shut she would be offered an Engineering Manager role which she took. Everyone in rail knows that story apparently and i would believe it to be true as I heard this person worked as a florist previously and doesn't even have an engineering degree.
the Burak powers story went very quiet after that one news article so i am assuming NDA's were signed with an out of court settlement.
Another guy i know was acting in a role for over 3 years and was bullied by a young Superintendent who should never of been promoted. i saw dozens of messages on his phone on his R&R from her which showed a different side. He knew if he quit the acting role contractors would be sacked and the role dissolved and defended against her bullying tactics. Hands down one of the worst managers i have dealt with.
I also heard that people with zero qualifications in some cases are getting hired as Project Engineers (renaming the roles as Project Specialists). A woman i know that is very knowledgeable in this field ad had an engineering degree was furious when told to train these up and felt it belittled her efforts of getting a degree in engineering and spending all that time and money. She resigned shortly after from BHP especially after hearing my story.
Like i said there are alot more stories like these out there. Good luck with your campaign against BHP. I hope you get justice. My role has been set back majorly because of their decisions and others beneath me and new people coming into the business have also been affected. i suffered depression for a long time because of it but I am a strong believer in what goes around comes around. I hope i get the chance to meet upper management face to face some day and tell them off.
It is just another thing for Executives to justify the amount of bonus they get paid 'because we implemented x y & z'.. The company still runs despite all their sh*t... I had worked earlier for a huge Australian Corporation...
BTW it takes a very brave person to take on BHP. When it came to leaving, the “team” boss said “sign the contract or you will never work in this industry again”. I did my job well. Probably too well. I’m still recovering from BHP so many years on.
I am a woman who was employed at BHP. My experience of BHP would have landed the company in an Australian court but alas took place in another country. That said Australians oversaw what was an obvious case of bullying by a female manager. They smugly knew the laws.
The female manager was under qualified for her role but was of the right kind of thinking- left wing, anti mining, radical feminist, environmentalist.
Bettina it is not about just employing any woman, it’s about employing women of a particular political bent. Or no political bent. They want “women in mining” but any passion for mining is not allowed. Competency is not a factor.
They talk about mental health etc but what she did , her boss and his boss - who stands only one down from Mike- is absolutely disgraceful.
I hope these people are taken to court. I continue to wonder where the unions are on this. There should be a proper investigation into BHP’s work practices both in Australia and overseas.
You wonder where the Unions are. Having first hand knowledge of one well known Unions, this particular Union are not about the workers, they are all about propping up Labor. When election time comes around Union officials are made to go and do the work for Labor. Generous wages ( around $150,000) paid to Union Officials by Union members do not get used for protecting workers rights.
I agree. As well wages are so high for many in BHP that unions probably find it difficult to make a case. BHP is an exception because of its high profit margin so it can afford to go down this road of women quotas. If you want a career in mining and you believe in merit I would not recommend going to BHP. What is fascinating is the hypocrisy of the BHP elite - which is now filling up with women. It’s no longer a boys club, it’s a girls club. And they are just as fierce, just as incompetent and match the worst of men in bullying. We are talking about a person’s career here. I actually think the word “bullying” doesn’t cut it. Try intimidation, slander, and verbal abuse.
I find it interesting that the gendered debate regarding schools can be very selective.
Recently Cranbrook has changed its enrolments to include girls - it formerly had a long history of being solely a boys school. Not all current and former parents of boys sang from the same hymn book when that was announced.
Having observed the Cranbrook transition I wonder what the parents' response would be if the same reversion of enrolments (boys) was mooted, for them to attend St Vincents Girls School, Ascam, Pymble and PLC etc?
But this 50/50 target is never applied to profession dominated by women. If this mix is supposedly leading to outstanding results then why would our corporations and governments deny our children the very best education gender equity can offer?
And why as yet is there no push for 50/50 gender split in roof tiling and concreting or bricklaying? How about working on fishing trawlers?
How can anyone defend gender equity with a straight face? The whole theory is absurd. They are saying that women think and act with one mind and men do the same yet in reality we know a room full of men might have more diversity of thought than a room with a 50/50 gender split.
Suggesting gender equity should be the goal of every business and corporation is as absurd as saying a board with 33% red heads, 33% blondes and 33% brunettes will lead to increased profits for any company who employs this balanced mix.
Anyone who believes the immutable characteristics of a human being come with a guarantee of a particular way of thinking and acting would be deemed a moron, yet this is exactly what our government and corporations have been saying and believing for years.
I am tired of the endless injustice and discrimination against males and the lack of pushback from the male population. And women as a demographic make me feel ill. I still have many female friends and female family I love and respect but the fact that women allow and enable this discrimination to continue because it benefits them makes them complicit. in this sickening assault on boys and men.
and to think 'anyone' is getting a job to fill some quota is nonsense ... it is like producing products just to employ people.
Anyway, I had enough today as I read all this.. enough of a lot of things going on in the world.. but .. I wrote the Albanese and suggested: many governments around the world are pushing for gender equality. Fair enough! But doesn't this mean that every company, organisation, NGO and government should have a Male and Female Leader(s)?
I'll let you know any replies.. normally takes months... 'thanks for your feedback'..
I'm realising more and more and not just me as a male, but Citizens are powerless because 'actually' politicians are doing their own sh*t...
Thanks for the compliment about my wonderful art, produced by Fraser Hopwood at Naughtee Graphics in Tasmania. He does a brilliant job! I share your anger... but we need to try to do something to change things. A court case would be a great start!
Ps. I’ve noted the name of your graphic artist and will use him for my business if the chance arises. Yes, he does a brilliant job, and I’ve noticed many times!
I’m happy to support a challenge, but to me this is a “last roll of the dice”.
I expect that while it is likely to be successful in this particular case, it will get scant media coverage and when completed there will only be a minor reprimand for individuals at BHP. Importantly, suggestions that this is a widespread practice will be derided as “with no evidence”. See how Britt Higgins’ hugely successful #marchforjustice has got bogged down with Shane Drumgold as the fall-guy, with no repercussions for Higgins or the ringleaders in the Labor Party.
Moreover, by the time BHP is finally punished, the feminist will have further tightened their stranglehold on Australia. Quite possibly, the Ministry of Truth will be operating and will be effective in quashing “misinformation” about the BHP case! LOL!
Still, I’m happy to be proved wrong, and to support this challenge.
Firstly, credit to the cover image which leads the article. Another great one! It is hilariously close to the sort of pic one would see from the mining industry itself! Whoever is doing these is doing a great job artistically and thematically. Bravo!
There’s so much here, in trends and in details, and it’s so important! Thanks, once again.
My initial response is just anger.
All of Australia knows this is happening in most industries and government departments. They know that it undermines standards and competitiveness. They know it destroys men’s lives. They know it’s been happening for decades and that it will only keep getting worse.
They talk about in whispers in private conversations.
Just last week I was having lunch with a mate who bemoaned that in his own experience as a strategy contractor for the Victorian government he had seen the promotion of idle women over competent men. However, he spoke cautiously, and when I laughed and responded with a normal voice he instinctively looked around to see who might have heard, and told me to keep my voice down. We were in Adelaide, so away from any potential career repercussions for him.
Aussies know that this is going to destroy their sons - but they say nothing. AND, they dismiss the few people who do say something, AND they vote for more of the same.
I’m so angry!
In the plus side, perhaps their instinctive aversion to Albo’s Voice is their quiet way of saying “enough”.
I grew up with, and fully supported the feminism of equal opportunity. But the push for equality of outcomes we have now is a nonsense that demeans women by treating us like helpless children. Policies based on equality of outcome carry the soft bigotry of low expectations. They tell us women are too incompetent to achieve in these spaces on the basis of personal drive and merit. And it is unfair and cruel to the competent men who are geing overlooked. Looking fwd to the swing of the pendulum and a time when men and women are valued for their equal but opposite strengths, and are welcome
to express qualities of the opposite gender freely if they are naturally inclined to do so.
What does it say about the entitlement and lack of integrity of the women accepting these jobs? Nothing good, I'm certain. They are as aware of the injustice as anyone, and uniquely placed to address it, but do nothing about it. The same pattern can be seen across society. With few exceptions, women are venal and can only be trusted to pursue their self interest. Having given women the vote, men are now hostage to these selfish creatures because the innate in-group bias of women crosses party lines. Is it a coincidence that our society is degrading before our eyes? What it took men centuries to build, women are destroying in decades. For now it is to their advantage but in the end everyone will suffer.
I agree with you Tim that a large percentage of these women who accept these jobs, knowing full well that they really don't have the full credentials to carry out their duties to a high standard, lack integrity. I also believe most corporations employ them as they are more malleable than men.
200 hundred men missed out on joining Queensland Police. Qld Crime Commission report stated 50/50 recruitment strategy resulted in discriminatory practices being used against male candidates between 2016/2017. the Commission report stated ineligible women were chosen over males who performed at a higher standard. CCC chairman said Qld Police recruiting Section used Misleading, Deceptive & False Reporting practices. Report also stated this can happen in any agency. 3 Qld Police employees were suspended & 4 th left the force in wake of Report.
The same was happening in the Defence Forces about a decade ago. Males who wanted to enlist were being turned away in favour of females. Also, a large Federal Department in Canberra has one section that is all-female and it is impossible for a male to get his foot in the door. The section is Payroll.
that is crazy discrimination.... I wonder if it is the same section a female friend works in.. I must ask her... she hasn't always been happy...bitchy women...
Qld Police still have a quota of 50/50, many are leaving the force & morale is low amongst serving Members. Qld Police have a recruiting drive at the moment encouraging overseas & interstate applicants to apply for Police jobs as there are not enough applicants within the state. Would anyone want to work at an organisation who illegally discriminates.
Publication in ‘In Queensland’ April 15, 2021 story is about Ipswich Mayor applied under Anti Discrimination Act for an exemption to have female only Trainees to get Heavy Rigid Truck Licence for jobs as Garbos. This woman would scream and have a hissy fit if it was a female discriminated against.
I am happy this is now talked about not brushed under but still far to go. Have I had a sad story to share. my brother killed himself a short time ago. He worked at olympic dam in south australia. He had worked there for a long time and was being treated unfair because he was male not diverse. His friends for work saw the abuse of leaders who have gender incentives for acting this way trying to make case to fire him. friends offered support his job was given to a less qualified female and hurt his relationship with family as impact as force him to work away from home. leaders at bhp, vps heads general managers have diversity targets and they are already at comfortable part of career they want to protect themselves most have no integrity so they do what they are told and treat non diverse people in a bad way. it is abuse they see males as obstacle between them and bonus and they treat them very poorly and abuse them. ones with integrity who stand up get sacked. Search for the case of Burak Powers. they fight over gay or female other diverse people when they see dollar signs and it disgusting tokenism. Male are made to site roles and females given priority for roles not at site so they stay home with family. this was happened to my brother. This is so dangerous now because bhp are deciding who is allowed to spend time with their family and who is not, instead of make roles based on most qualified and best people. Always is the men who end up worse for this with long time away from family. They have BOS now which tries to make roles just procedures so anybody can do them even with low ability. This is so they do not need to hire any more for ability so they hire with gender race sometimes disability on there minds what ever will make them look good and progressive. BHP are doing this it is terrible and nobody had courage speak up because bhp punish so bad.
My brother thankfully left us treasure trove of documents emails and photos and recorded conversations and things. We are preparing this with professional and media person but not yet do we want BHP to know who we yet are until we progress more in this. We just want to get the word out to find many other people are want to come forward. I do not want to share my real name yet because I who work still for bhp and they would punish me and other family. that is how wrong this become that bhp go after people becasue they think they are always right. I have tried to tell this story on glass door and seek but they took it down because it does not fit the agenda. this seems is a fair article website and thank you for leaving it up.
The sentences i have written and spelling has been changed to protect my identity. you will read this and think I am silly for bad grammar and words but this is intentional word choice, sentences and punctuation have been changed to protect my identity. If you had seen what I had seen you would know they will try to find out identity every way they can. bhp will get professional to look at writing style and match with emails they have i have seen this before. bhp if you are trying to decide who I am you waste you're time. I to keep sharing details as advice comes and we start to try avenge our family member for this sick evil mike vandita edgar and wont even name people officer who like to be pretend to be god instead of just be a business.
please comment if you have been hurt by bhp for this and we will find safe way to talk. this posting will be more often soon as we need to talk more about this publicly to put stop to this abuse.
You speak the truth but I feel it is futile to go against them. I was passed over and told I lacked the experience etc. etc. only for the role to be manipulated and given to someone with no experience but fit into the diversity requirements. Another colleague who was told the same BS challenged it further and the person hiring finally admitted that they were told to hire a diverse candidate. i then found out the person hired was approached and told to apply and knew they were getting the job.
There are plenty of others like this. I know another guy that was perfect fit for the role, applied for it and management actually wanted to award the role but GM level blocked it saying " not enough diverse people applied and to re-advertise it". Even after it was re-advertised the same person (who reapplied after i told him the job was re-advertised not management) was picked as the ideal person. once again the GM pulls rank and this time says am we will just continue with him acting in the role which means he can do the job for less pay til we find a diverse candidate to do it.
Same thing happened with the Senior role in the same team. They wanted a female in the role so they prolong acting positions til they find one. If they cannot find one then the role gets restructured to suit a candidate and then you are expected to support this person.
Another person who applied for a Lead PM role didn't get it only to find that a college graduate (that looked about 15) got awarded the role. As expected he was hired in a senior role with expectations to support this person and her 1-up protected her from upper management. When the project fell apart the 1-up got fired for incompetence and her protection was gone and she got let go shortly after.
Another woman was hired as a PM. I spoke with an old colleague of hers from a previous job and he mentioned that when she got the job she boasted how she got it cos she is a woman. She had no PM skills and zero people skills by my standards and delivered zero projects. This person then was changing her flights without approval flying out every Thursday taking Friday's off when she should be working. When she got caught she said "don't call me I'm on stress leave" suddenly. She quit a week later knowing she would be reprimanded or sacked. She came back to BHP and is currently a Maintenance Superintendent in the mines. How did she get that job with minimal experience - cos she is diverse. Now they can't get rid of her.
I heard another story about a female complaining of being passed over due to sexual discrimination and then if she kept her mouth shut she would be offered an Engineering Manager role which she took. Everyone in rail knows that story apparently and i would believe it to be true as I heard this person worked as a florist previously and doesn't even have an engineering degree.
the Burak powers story went very quiet after that one news article so i am assuming NDA's were signed with an out of court settlement.
Another guy i know was acting in a role for over 3 years and was bullied by a young Superintendent who should never of been promoted. i saw dozens of messages on his phone on his R&R from her which showed a different side. He knew if he quit the acting role contractors would be sacked and the role dissolved and defended against her bullying tactics. Hands down one of the worst managers i have dealt with.
I also heard that people with zero qualifications in some cases are getting hired as Project Engineers (renaming the roles as Project Specialists). A woman i know that is very knowledgeable in this field ad had an engineering degree was furious when told to train these up and felt it belittled her efforts of getting a degree in engineering and spending all that time and money. She resigned shortly after from BHP especially after hearing my story.
Like i said there are alot more stories like these out there. Good luck with your campaign against BHP. I hope you get justice. My role has been set back majorly because of their decisions and others beneath me and new people coming into the business have also been affected. i suffered depression for a long time because of it but I am a strong believer in what goes around comes around. I hope i get the chance to meet upper management face to face some day and tell them off.
I found this for Burak Powers: https://www.texasemploymentlawupdate.com/2022/12/articles/case-summaries/diversity-initiatives-that-grant-advantages-to-underrepresented-groups-can-give-rise-to-discrimination-claims/
I hope you win against this terror!
It is just another thing for Executives to justify the amount of bonus they get paid 'because we implemented x y & z'.. The company still runs despite all their sh*t... I had worked earlier for a huge Australian Corporation...
BTW it takes a very brave person to take on BHP. When it came to leaving, the “team” boss said “sign the contract or you will never work in this industry again”. I did my job well. Probably too well. I’m still recovering from BHP so many years on.
I am a woman who was employed at BHP. My experience of BHP would have landed the company in an Australian court but alas took place in another country. That said Australians oversaw what was an obvious case of bullying by a female manager. They smugly knew the laws.
The female manager was under qualified for her role but was of the right kind of thinking- left wing, anti mining, radical feminist, environmentalist.
Bettina it is not about just employing any woman, it’s about employing women of a particular political bent. Or no political bent. They want “women in mining” but any passion for mining is not allowed. Competency is not a factor.
They talk about mental health etc but what she did , her boss and his boss - who stands only one down from Mike- is absolutely disgraceful.
I hope these people are taken to court. I continue to wonder where the unions are on this. There should be a proper investigation into BHP’s work practices both in Australia and overseas.
Gloria
You wonder where the Unions are. Having first hand knowledge of one well known Unions, this particular Union are not about the workers, they are all about propping up Labor. When election time comes around Union officials are made to go and do the work for Labor. Generous wages ( around $150,000) paid to Union Officials by Union members do not get used for protecting workers rights.
I agree. As well wages are so high for many in BHP that unions probably find it difficult to make a case. BHP is an exception because of its high profit margin so it can afford to go down this road of women quotas. If you want a career in mining and you believe in merit I would not recommend going to BHP. What is fascinating is the hypocrisy of the BHP elite - which is now filling up with women. It’s no longer a boys club, it’s a girls club. And they are just as fierce, just as incompetent and match the worst of men in bullying. We are talking about a person’s career here. I actually think the word “bullying” doesn’t cut it. Try intimidation, slander, and verbal abuse.
Fggd
I find it interesting that the gendered debate regarding schools can be very selective.
Recently Cranbrook has changed its enrolments to include girls - it formerly had a long history of being solely a boys school. Not all current and former parents of boys sang from the same hymn book when that was announced.
Having observed the Cranbrook transition I wonder what the parents' response would be if the same reversion of enrolments (boys) was mooted, for them to attend St Vincents Girls School, Ascam, Pymble and PLC etc?
Thanks Betina, and peoples super funds that have ESG mandates.
But this 50/50 target is never applied to profession dominated by women. If this mix is supposedly leading to outstanding results then why would our corporations and governments deny our children the very best education gender equity can offer?
And why as yet is there no push for 50/50 gender split in roof tiling and concreting or bricklaying? How about working on fishing trawlers?
How can anyone defend gender equity with a straight face? The whole theory is absurd. They are saying that women think and act with one mind and men do the same yet in reality we know a room full of men might have more diversity of thought than a room with a 50/50 gender split.
Suggesting gender equity should be the goal of every business and corporation is as absurd as saying a board with 33% red heads, 33% blondes and 33% brunettes will lead to increased profits for any company who employs this balanced mix.
Anyone who believes the immutable characteristics of a human being come with a guarantee of a particular way of thinking and acting would be deemed a moron, yet this is exactly what our government and corporations have been saying and believing for years.
I am tired of the endless injustice and discrimination against males and the lack of pushback from the male population. And women as a demographic make me feel ill. I still have many female friends and female family I love and respect but the fact that women allow and enable this discrimination to continue because it benefits them makes them complicit. in this sickening assault on boys and men.
you are 100% correct...
and to think 'anyone' is getting a job to fill some quota is nonsense ... it is like producing products just to employ people.
Anyway, I had enough today as I read all this.. enough of a lot of things going on in the world.. but .. I wrote the Albanese and suggested: many governments around the world are pushing for gender equality. Fair enough! But doesn't this mean that every company, organisation, NGO and government should have a Male and Female Leader(s)?
I'll let you know any replies.. normally takes months... 'thanks for your feedback'..
I'm realising more and more and not just me as a male, but Citizens are powerless because 'actually' politicians are doing their own sh*t...
Thanks for the compliment about my wonderful art, produced by Fraser Hopwood at Naughtee Graphics in Tasmania. He does a brilliant job! I share your anger... but we need to try to do something to change things. A court case would be a great start!
Ps. I’ve noted the name of your graphic artist and will use him for my business if the chance arises. Yes, he does a brilliant job, and I’ve noticed many times!
I’m happy to support a challenge, but to me this is a “last roll of the dice”.
I expect that while it is likely to be successful in this particular case, it will get scant media coverage and when completed there will only be a minor reprimand for individuals at BHP. Importantly, suggestions that this is a widespread practice will be derided as “with no evidence”. See how Britt Higgins’ hugely successful #marchforjustice has got bogged down with Shane Drumgold as the fall-guy, with no repercussions for Higgins or the ringleaders in the Labor Party.
Moreover, by the time BHP is finally punished, the feminist will have further tightened their stranglehold on Australia. Quite possibly, the Ministry of Truth will be operating and will be effective in quashing “misinformation” about the BHP case! LOL!
Still, I’m happy to be proved wrong, and to support this challenge.
High time the Peter Principle was renamed to "Peta Principle".
Firstly, credit to the cover image which leads the article. Another great one! It is hilariously close to the sort of pic one would see from the mining industry itself! Whoever is doing these is doing a great job artistically and thematically. Bravo!
There’s so much here, in trends and in details, and it’s so important! Thanks, once again.
My initial response is just anger.
All of Australia knows this is happening in most industries and government departments. They know that it undermines standards and competitiveness. They know it destroys men’s lives. They know it’s been happening for decades and that it will only keep getting worse.
They talk about in whispers in private conversations.
Just last week I was having lunch with a mate who bemoaned that in his own experience as a strategy contractor for the Victorian government he had seen the promotion of idle women over competent men. However, he spoke cautiously, and when I laughed and responded with a normal voice he instinctively looked around to see who might have heard, and told me to keep my voice down. We were in Adelaide, so away from any potential career repercussions for him.
Aussies know that this is going to destroy their sons - but they say nothing. AND, they dismiss the few people who do say something, AND they vote for more of the same.
I’m so angry!
In the plus side, perhaps their instinctive aversion to Albo’s Voice is their quiet way of saying “enough”.
Simple solution for "guys", buy pink HiViz, paint your nails and identify as female in job interviews...play these dopes at their own game...
I grew up with, and fully supported the feminism of equal opportunity. But the push for equality of outcomes we have now is a nonsense that demeans women by treating us like helpless children. Policies based on equality of outcome carry the soft bigotry of low expectations. They tell us women are too incompetent to achieve in these spaces on the basis of personal drive and merit. And it is unfair and cruel to the competent men who are geing overlooked. Looking fwd to the swing of the pendulum and a time when men and women are valued for their equal but opposite strengths, and are welcome
to express qualities of the opposite gender freely if they are naturally inclined to do so.
Very keen to get this article out to the mining community so please share it anywhere that could make that happen. It's important people know that this discrimination might be able to be challenged. https://open.substack.com/pub/bettinaarndt/p/is-bhp-discrimining-against-men?r=iqrdm&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
What does it say about the entitlement and lack of integrity of the women accepting these jobs? Nothing good, I'm certain. They are as aware of the injustice as anyone, and uniquely placed to address it, but do nothing about it. The same pattern can be seen across society. With few exceptions, women are venal and can only be trusted to pursue their self interest. Having given women the vote, men are now hostage to these selfish creatures because the innate in-group bias of women crosses party lines. Is it a coincidence that our society is degrading before our eyes? What it took men centuries to build, women are destroying in decades. For now it is to their advantage but in the end everyone will suffer.
It would be nice to see more women speak out about the blatant unfairness of what is going on. Where are the mothers of sons?
I agree with you Tim that a large percentage of these women who accept these jobs, knowing full well that they really don't have the full credentials to carry out their duties to a high standard, lack integrity. I also believe most corporations employ them as they are more malleable than men.
The Guardian 12th May, 2021
200 hundred men missed out on joining Queensland Police. Qld Crime Commission report stated 50/50 recruitment strategy resulted in discriminatory practices being used against male candidates between 2016/2017. the Commission report stated ineligible women were chosen over males who performed at a higher standard. CCC chairman said Qld Police recruiting Section used Misleading, Deceptive & False Reporting practices. Report also stated this can happen in any agency. 3 Qld Police employees were suspended & 4 th left the force in wake of Report.
The same was happening in the Defence Forces about a decade ago. Males who wanted to enlist were being turned away in favour of females. Also, a large Federal Department in Canberra has one section that is all-female and it is impossible for a male to get his foot in the door. The section is Payroll.
that is crazy discrimination.... I wonder if it is the same section a female friend works in.. I must ask her... she hasn't always been happy...bitchy women...
Qld Police still have a quota of 50/50, many are leaving the force & morale is low amongst serving Members. Qld Police have a recruiting drive at the moment encouraging overseas & interstate applicants to apply for Police jobs as there are not enough applicants within the state. Would anyone want to work at an organisation who illegally discriminates.
Publication in ‘In Queensland’ April 15, 2021 story is about Ipswich Mayor applied under Anti Discrimination Act for an exemption to have female only Trainees to get Heavy Rigid Truck Licence for jobs as Garbos. This woman would scream and have a hissy fit if it was a female discriminated against.