NEWS FLASH! Australian father, denied access and due process, related to children hidden and then retained in the USA since 2015 files in the Supreme Court of the United States. Mother then calls in DCYF on father's first access in 5 years. Sigh...
The hysteria, dishonesty and blatant lies about DV related homicides in recent days has been appalling.
It's clearly a coordinated and partisan effort by misandrist elite women across the Australian media and political spectrum, to smear and denigrate all men as potential killers, and to scare the hell out of girls and women.
You can see that homicides are broken into 4 different categories - 'Intimate partner', 'Family', 'Not DV', 'Other'. Check the definitions carefully.
When you drill down the stats overall and for different categories of homicide in this area, you'll see that the reality is very different to what's being portrayed - the numbers of intimate partner homicide, for example, are not very high at all.
The other huge takeaway is that in fact, these types of homicide are decreasing - the trend is a positive one, which is exactly the opposite of what is being peddled, and which they're suppressing.
A few other facts that the misandrists are suppressing :
- indigenous Australians have a massive overrepresentation in these homicides, both as perpetrators and as victims. The overrepresentation is even more significant given that indigenous Australians are avtony minority of Australia's overall population.
- indigenous women have a massive overrepresentation in female victims of these types of homicide. As I understand it, Australia wide it may be close to 50%.
- females constitute many of the perpetrators of child victims of domestic related homicides (infanticide).
- context: intimate partner homicides - the focus of recent hysteria - are a tiny fraction of all homicides.
- context: arguably, other homicide stats are more concerning in particular suicides of both men and women, although the suicide rates of men are at crisis levels.
- context: Australia's record when it comes to DV related homicide is as I understand it, better than most major G7/OECD nations.
I'm not interested in partisan fighting and the above isn't to downplay DV related homicides. Every death is a tragedy. However, we will get nowhere unless we base the discussion on reality and the real world.
What I find despicable about these misandrist elites is how they exploit aborigines, whom they regard as toys/pets that they own and can discard once no longer useful. As we saw in The Voice debate and in this one, they couldn't care less about aborigines at all and in particular, aboriginal women. If they did, they wouldn't be suppressing the truth. They'd be shining a cold, glaring light on what's happening in remote Aboriginal communities and they'd be demanding immediate and urgent action.
But of course, they don't. And why aborigines will continue to languish in misery in those hell holes for the foreseeable future.
The reality is that most of these elite partisan misandrists are frauds, shysters and con artists, grandiose narcissists, seeking to grift money, power, awards, and endlessly seeking narcissistic supply. Denigrating men and boys, scaring women, dividing men and women with lies, and exploiting the misfortune of others are just tools of their trade. It's shameful how weak politicians have allowed them to cause so much division, fear and trouble, and highly damaging to Australia.
Anyway, hope this helps. Pethaos other stats/data relevant to the discussion above could be added in replies.
Have a look here. This was released just days ago by the Australian Institute of Criminology. Yes, there is a small increase of intimate partner homicide where the deceased was a female. (there is no clear distinction where the asailant was of opposite sex though, if you find it please let me know. My reason for stating this is that I personally know of two gay female relationships that ended with violence, one being hospitalised.) Even with this slight rise, women being killed by their intimate partner is down 52% from 1989. The trend is going down. It is currently one of the safets periods to be alive here in Australia.
With regard to the $925,000,000 pledged to assist women escaping DV. I have a theroy as to why the women's groups aren't happy and why this amount of money isn't such a big deal. While this amount of money should assist up to 40,000 women escape DV, only about 30-40% of applications for the trial period of this experiment were accepted and the number is quite a bit lower than 109 applications per day, and this is why they are angry. It is my belief that what the women want is more punative rather than support.
In the 2021/22 year about 70 women were murdered, total. Over 700 took their own life. The female suicide rate is 10 times higher, so one would believe that if these women were doing what they are doing because they care for eachother, they would be quite upset that no money has been put forward to stem the female suicide rate. Let's be fair though, women aren'tgood at commiting suicide, there are a lot more women who fail at it than there are men, so the need for help in this area is not clearly defined by the succesful suicides, it should be defined by the succesful and unsucesful suicides.
I have a ; tattoed on my wrist, it is there both for me and for my wife, she attempted suicide in 2018. I can tell you, there is fuck all help for people in that situation, it is an area that would benefit greatly if they got a measly $100,000,000, but no, these selfish women want more, I strongly believe that want more men in jail.
Right on. Feminists don’t care about other women, if they did they would be campaigning for more help to prevent the suicide of women , which as you say is ten times the murder rate. But men can’t be blamed for womens suicide so feminists ignore it .
A good idea to reschedule, Bettina. If Lehrmann appeals, which I believe he will, you may well be able to time the conference with the appeal judgement - which many lawyers think he will win.
As a person who fought and won a defamation case, I know just how hard it is to play the game and win. Fortunately for me my case was instigated due to a couple who were very careless with how they defamed me. They delighted in the fact that everyone they spoke to believed them and I believe they got drunk on the attention they were getting. It was hard to turn most of these people’s belief, which made it easier for me, but the ones that did proved to be very helpful.
In the final meeting before court, this couple were still standing up for what they said, they were frightened but were resolute in their position.
As we left, my lawyer and I both provided their lawyer with a cover of the information we were going to bring to court, as required. My lawyer told me that based on what he had seen, I was going to take a very decent amount of compensation. I would put this couple out on the street as the court would take their house. I wasn’t really happy with that though. Two days later I received a full written apology and a pledge that this couple would set in motion a plan to right all that they had done. I had won, I got what I wanted. Six months later this couple divorced.
My last post here was quite some angry ramblings, slightly incoherant, but that is what happens when a person becomes angry.
For two days in a row I have read the ABC news (if that's what it's called these days), and for both days there have been reports from the radicalised women's groups about how bad the situation is for them. One woman murdered every 4 days by an intimate partner. Actually this number was then said to be false with (real words here) only 49% of females killed by a male being by their intimate or past partner.
"Please stop killing us" was one of the placards, well, this is actually happening with the homicide rate falling over 50% over the past 30 years.
Then I read how a ten year old boy who was living with his violent mother who was facing over 50 criminal charges and whose father had died. Child services still put this ten year old boy with his mother. His life was so traumatic that he got on a train to the end of the line and camped out at social services center, which due to funding and laws couldn't help him. Three years later at the age of 13 he was involved in a murder. This young boy's life was ruined by the system. Is there any assistance for him, no.
A small but highly vocal part of our community just got over $50,000,000 in funding to prevent a situation that really just isn't anywhere as bad as they think it is, yet signs like "I'f rather live with a bear" are acceptable. Men need to step up. We now have to fight fire with fire. We must turn out in droves to protect our young men from this scurge of radicalisation that is infecting our women, sadly they are getting votes. We must turn this around.
Please, check the ABC News (kinda wrong name there) for the details mentioned above.
One woman killed every four days is not many , what are the feminists whinging about? There are millions of women in Australia , and considering the attitude many have towards men these days,,ie. scorn and ridicule ,hatred and outright malice, it’s a wonder that even more women aren’t killed .
In fact this is a tribute to the patience and restraint of Australian men who are putting up with a lot from the feminists indoctrinated women of today.
The Prime Minister has parroted the feminists by saying “ disrespect for women causes domestic violence” what nonsense, what about the disrespect for men which is so common now.
Ohh, you are dangerously close to the truth there. Currently I am also conversing with a Facebook group called Brotherhood of Men. There is a ABC news story that was published yesterday that is claiming that over the past 32 years that the homicide rate is actually the lowest it has been since 1992, that includes homicide with a female victim. The actual numbers state that from 1989 to 2023 there were some 3,000 more male victims of homicide than there were female. 6,404 to 3,488.
It is interesting that the act of cherry picking is so extreme to those ready to prove a moot point that the people pushing this agenda seem to completely forget that men lose their lives ant close to twice the rate of females due to homicide, that men lose their lives due to suicide at a rate 3 times that of women, yet as it seems, no one cares.
Albo the Great (joke there) just commited over $50,000,000 toward female safety, I sure hope a sizable amount of that goes towards providing support for men long before they become homicidal (towards themselves included).
Women are safer now than at any other time , except for war torn countries , but this is not good enough for feminists , who always exaggerate the facts.
One woman killed by an intimate partner every four days they are claiming and this is probably right but spread out over a population of 27 million people it is a very small number .
Realistically you will never stop domestic violence , men and women living together will always cause conflict, and women must take half the blame , for provoking men in many cases.
If the PM had the guts to say something like this we would on the way to a balanced debate , but politicians are scared of losing the womens vote and so play the game , the media are to blame as well for sensationalising the issue whenever a woman is killed.
Our women are being radicalised, yes radicalised in probably the worst way. We are currently in this situation because of very small groups of women literally making mountains out of mole hills. Let me explain.
In the ABC news today (28/04/2024) there is a picture of a young woman holding up a sign saying "please stop killing us". How is a sign so radical so acceptable. This is a simple sign, but it is laying responsibility at the feet of every male in our country, she is effectively labelling every man as a murderer. I often get in trouble because I state that I am not responsible for what other men that I don't know do. These radical women simply won't stand for it when I say that I am not a perpertrator.
Based on "probability", all men are rapists or perpertrators of DV. Guys, lock yourselves up, or at least never ever get drunk again, never ever buy a woman a drink, possibly don't ever pay for her meal on a date, actually, probably best if you never ever date again. Women are dangerous. Yet, the next photo of one of these brave young girls growing up in what is possibly the safest generation ever, the sign states "Girls just want to (Have fun is crossed out replaced with) feel safe. The next sign reads "I'd feel safer with a bear".
What the fuck. All of these signs scream radicalisation at well over 120db. It is very likely that very few of these women have experienced DV or rape directly or indirectly, It is 100% that none of them actually understand what leads to DV because they are constantly being told that they are victims, that they deserve the right to go out and get as drunk as a skunk and be 100% safe. They are allowed to abuse their partners and their partners are then often held responsible, like I was!
The real problem is simple, if you back even the most placid dog into a corner and hurl legalised abuse at it, it, regardless of gender it will do one of two things. It will piss itself due to the stress and wish it was dead (read the male suicide rate of approximately 35 men per week, 7 per day, 2,455 per year that sadly very few people give a fuck about) or it will attack, (read the one female killed by a man known to them every four days).
Yes, what I just said is supposed to be as confronting as it is, it highlights a very well known aspect in psychology knows an the fight or flight response. In this case fighters become murderers and flighters just kill themselves.
Yes, we have a problem in our society, 35 fucking times bigger than these radicalised women and their hopeless supporters will ever realise, but they are so far down their path of radicalisation that they simply cannot understand the depths of position, a classic case of the Dunning Kruger affect.
How do we fix this? I really don't think it can be fixed under our current style of government. Small business is being screwed every day, yet is the biggest employer group out there. Big business makes decisions knowing how much their fines are and continue onwards regardless because it is profitable to pay the fines and do the crime anyway. Our government simply reacts in ways that don't really make sense. We have a whole generation of people who don't know what is real anymore, they are then told what to think. The next one deserves it's own catagory, alcohol.
Our alcohol laws desperatly need to be reviewed. If a person is pissed at a venue, the venue just removes them, then they are not the responsibility of the venue anymore, the patron walks the street, gets a taxi home or drives home. If they drive home, well drink driving is against the law and they might get caught, or they might have an accident and hurt someone in which case their insurance is also denied due to being drunk. Serious concequences for that. Accountability for one's own actions.
If a person walks the streets and get's into a fight, man on man, then they can get into trouble but they will claim deminished responsibility. Drunk people are forever vandalising our business, pissing and throwing up everywhere, breaking things and generally being a right pain in the ass. Do they get in trouble, no. Deminished accountability for one's own actions.
Sex while drunk. Fuck. Guys, don't do it, it's rape, but sadly it is often the girl who is drunk as well. No accountability for women, 100% accountability for men.
What is it when a person can claim deminished responsibility in some circumstances when drunk, but are held to full accountability in other situations? In my view, anything a person does when drunk, or anything that is done to them while in a state of intoxication, well they need to be responsible for both. Bad decisions are made when drunk, getting drunk is often a decision made by the intoxicated person, it then should be seen as anything that happens to and or what a drunk person does is in fact their responsibility.
Um, Bruce Lerhman is actually completely innocent. Um, the judge made a call on Schrodinger's cat without any undestanding that an observation is required to make any determinations as to the extance of the cat. In that room there were two people. Due to the sad fact that both Bruce and Brittany were unsatisfactory witnesses, there is only one true determination that could be made, that the court had insufficient evidence to make a judgement. I mean, whith what she said, that wasn't believed, when she stated that she felt the rape and was crying no, no, no, but then feels that a good sleep was in order directly after was the right thing to do. Then the wellfare check by the female security guard found that she was in such a situation that no special need was required also speaks to the probability that what happened in that room was not of a serious nature.
Back to the radicalisation of a very small part of our community. I believe that the judge is also part of this radical group, so are many of our politicians and all of our media, if they weren't then they would be standing up asking why the fuck are we ingoring the spiralling male suicide rate. Sadly, they simply don't care so be prepared for it to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.
Those insane "prefer a bear rather than a man" placards went 'viral' and was reported on by the mainstream media, where the DailyMail claimed that the "simple yet loaded question" (!) was "leading to breakups around the world". These aren't very small groups of women making mountains out of molehills -- there were tens of thousands of protesters across multiple cities in multiple cities over multiple days. This androphobia became a social contagion that very quickly spread to the highest government office in the country. Even "conservative" media and politicians are falling over themselves to spread this feminist disease. Liberal MP Nicolle Flint called for parliament to make it a legal offence to "offend, insult, humiliate, and intimidate women"!
We have lost the plot and tragically, your advice for men to isolate themselves from this rotting illness seems like the sanest thing to do. Not even conservatives care about men, it seems. We saw exactly the same thing happen in Ireland where the local women radically turned on their men to side with Team Women, and they hate it when you won't divide the world into two competing teams like they do and self-flagellate for Team Men. Gamma bias, women's in-group bias, and society's pro-female bias all get turned up to 11.
Liberal MP Nicole Flint represents the “conservative” feminists in contrast to the lefty feminist ,they wear business suits and conservative hairstyles, would never have tattoos or body piercings . But women like her are just as dangerous and what she said proves it.
But why didn’t Peter Dutton step in and stop her? he’s also a feminist ,an ex cop he’d have been trained to obey .
Flint’s proposal is a blatant attack on the freedom of speech .
I must thank JayBee for showing an interest in the scandal that hit the UK 2017/18 following the "collapse" of a series of Rape trials and the re trial of Ched Evans. Amongst those critical of both the Police and Crown Prosecution Service was the Chair of the Criminal Bar Association, Angela Rafferty. In response she pushed for a review of cases. She commissioned other research beyond the actions of the Police or CPS of holding evidence back from the court . In this, about the legal provision which prevents the defense presenting evidence of the complainants sexual behavior history, but does alow the prosecution to present evidence about the defendant, one finds the "smoking gun" that points to the CPS having internal guidance to prevent such evidence reach the court or if told to present it do so at the minimum. https://crimeline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/s41report.pdf
The report is long and detailed but contains at 131 "The Northumberland
Report recommends that “[the] CPS ensure that prosecuting counsel robustly oppose all
applications for the admission of section 41 material and if an application succeeds, further
seek to limit the ambit and quantity of such material to the minimum” (emphasis
added). This is contrary to all of the ethical and constitutional obligations of prosecuting
counsel. Parliament in enacting section 41 did contemplate that sexual behaviour
evidence could be relevant, admissible and necessary for a safe verdict. If an application
is clearly warranted and admissible through one of the four gateways in section 41, then
it would be ethically wholly improper for prosecuting counsel to oppose the application"
In other words the CPS issued instructions based on a Report which is feminist "advocacy research" produced by the feminist pressure groups. By contrast the CBA research included the experience of male complainants (victims), of which there were in fact a substantial proportion. I bring this up because overall the Ministry of Justice and CBA estimated that 25% of convictions for such sexual assault crimes were "unsound" due to various shenanigans about evidence. Generally the public "culprit" was "lack of resources" but in reality the "believe" mantra and CPS policy combined with pressure to get the number of convictions up pushed this. Unsurprisingly in subsequent years the number of cases going to trial fell by .... you guessed it 25%. Which then fired a continuing clamor in Parliament and the media to get the figures up by........ you guessed it again fiddling with the evidence; this time making it much harder for the Police to obtain phone/social media evidence!
It is interesting the the CBA Barristers (who have prosecuted and defended) agreed that the existing law then was too restrictive for a fair trial and this had been slightly ameliorated by the Court (Judges) taking into account the Human Rights of the defendant for a fair trial.
No this is the law in the UK at the moment. It seems many Barristers and Judges realise this and attempt to work with it to achieve a fair trial. But in the end the Law is made by Parliament which has been pressured by feminist lobbying to increase the numbers of convictions. The target is to increase the numbers imprisoned by any means possible; not to see justice is done. Scotland has a separate legal system and Assembly which is trying to end the right to trial by jury at the moment, again to "increase convictions". In terms of undermining the resumption of innocence and denying basic constitutional rights and human rights all these are examples. I don't know about Australia but II guess feminists there either have or will adopt this sort of thing.
Sorry, in the original email I wrote the name of the organisation Australians for Science and Freedom wrongly. Mental lapse. Amazing that got through, given that 4-5 people had checked it!!
A suggestion tina. Some people (the brightest and richest) refuse to use links on the internet to enter credit card details to make payments. I KNOW it is more labour intensive but a phone number (manned hoho) would allow people to pay by VOICE phone contact securely. Alternatively, an address where a personal cheque could be sent would do. those who have no money in the bank or actually think that a bank will repay what scammers steal from you would not understand of course (most of the sheep).
I do understand your concern but we just don't have the manpower to make this happen. The payments are being handled by ASF and they are too small an organisation to deal with the problem of receiving personal cheques which have to be deposited at a bank etc. I'm sorry about that. Of course everyone is welcome to watch in at TNT Radio.
“As I have explained, right now 400 current sexual assault cases are being audited by NSW public prosecutors to determine whether, as 6 judges have claimed, such cases are being pushed through to trial with insufficient evidence.”
Is precisely the same issue that caused a furor here in the UK 2017/18 Where the Ministry of Justice, a whistle blowing Barrister acting for the CPS, the Criminal Bar Association and even a documentary by the BBC all agreed 25% of convictions in the previous 5 years were “unsound” because of the Police and CPS conspiring to conceal evidence from the Court (and thereby the defense) as they pushed through cases. Here, as in Australia the catalyst was Judges either halting trials or issuing scathing reprimands to the CPS and or the Police. Linked to the collapse of the “Nick” historical abuse investigations and “believe” there was an all to brief outbreak of principle in our system. What was generally dodged was the obvious fact that if the Police and CPS are given targets to increase cases going to court then they are under pressure to take cases, however flimsy, to court appearance. Of course this reestablishment of principals (due process, innocent until proven guilty, fair trial) immediately caused a feminist backlash to reinstate the idea of “believe” and a presumption of guilt. Very evident in the Westminster, Edinburgh and Welsh Parliaments as they brought in legislation to further limit the defense evidence that is allowed, prevent the Police looking at social media texts etc., get the “gendered definition” written into abuse and harassment legislation and actually abolish the right to trial by Jury in Scotland.
It is a “men’s rights” issue as these attacks of fundamental principles of justice affect males disproportionately but of course they are also attacks on fundamental rights for all. For in how many other things would it be more “convenient” if the Crown (state) didn’t have to bother and simply assured the conviction and imprisonment without a process that tested the case “beyond reasonable doubt”?
Perhaps some participants could familiarize themselves with the reports of the Criminal Bar Association in England and Wales and the more recent Scottish CBA reports and representations on the issue of Jury trials to add this into the debate in Australia.
This gives a good explanation of the Law and its effect https://inews.co.uk/news/long-reads/section-41-used-ched-evans-retrial-26959 In this case the evidence was of the woman's sexual behaviour at about the same time as the incident. Which was very similar to that described on the night of the supposed offence. In fact in the original trial there were two defendants Mr. Evans and a team mate, the latter was found not guilty at the time. Also in fact the woman had not wanted to proceed with the prosecution as she claimed she could remember nothing, this was a case that the Police and CPS decided to pursue. This latter was no doubt because a few months before this the Police Service in that area had been censured about its record on Rape prosecutions by an inspection. As the article also includes the politics around this case continued after with 40 women MPs (Labour) writing a letter protesting the verdict and use of "sexual history" (even though in fact the evidence used was pretty contemporary). This case and those that were "collapsed" with the collapse of the "Historic sexual abuse" case. Brought some scrutiny on the injustice in the system. By the way Ched Evans also won a £800.000 payout from his original defense team basically for not pursuing his case properly and using this evidence. As I say in the end the reintroduction of some due process infuriated the 40 Labour MPs and other feminists anf their lobbying bore fruit last year in legislation to curtail the police accessing mobile phones and thereby alowing evidence to be deleted, such as exonerated Liam Allan. I mention this all as a point of comparison with Australia, which may be different or the same, on the crucial point of the way the law is manipulated to deny some basic rights in the actions of the Police, Prosecutors and Lawmakers. All this is quite different, but linked, the guilty by accusation approach of the media.
As you say at the time the woman was 19 and the men both 22, all drunk. The way these things are reported, variations on damsel in distress really, is a whole other thing. But as you say the systematic injustice and the overt desire to achieve this in Law is really pertinent to the Conference. I hope these cases can inform some of the debate over there.
Well done Bettina. You are a champion for justice. I cannot come but I will donate to support the conference and watch online. Thank you so much for your work.
Good work just been run over by woman on horses and attempted to whip me proven guilty thru nsw racing courts after being traumatised by process from past false dvo and losing childred house everything with no proof by solicitor showing ex how to tell lies and judge saying she needed no proof same thing happens thirty years latter by a woman That works at raceyrack where I work takes out apvo costs me $6000 on false allegations that I proved her to be lying and not allowed to be able to appeal grounds of costs and when I tried to file apvo on more substantial grounds and proven investigated evidence of assault and escalated behaviour as a result of was dismissed batemans bay court wendy harris registrar magistrate Dick
I have passed on information to Bettina about a family law firm that is actively advertising that the best way for a woman to secure 100% care of the children is to claim DV.
This is what is creating all this domestic violence against women after the fact of corrupt solicitors manufacturing evidence and misleading justice system. They need to treat the core of the disease not the sympton if they want to arrest the problem and prevent the killing it is an incurable disease but can be arrested at some point some people want to live in denial and blame what is happening solely on men after the fact and not look at themselves and how they are creating problem until they start putting out the spot fires feminism corrupt solicitors magistrates without balls your inevitably are going to get a wildfire
Unfortunately you are not alone, these vile, evil women and their supporters are growing in numbers and gaining strength. I hope you have been able to move on and have a reasonable life with support from friends and family. You certainly deserve it.
Thanks mate I keep moving no worries I act with love in my heart and I am grateful I am not that type of person who is so self centred and cannot see the bigger picture how these solicitors are using the law for wrongful purposes and actually cannot see how they are creating so much hatred and anger thru their lies and corruption that is killing our women if they are going to keep imbalancing the one eyed svales of justice by only adding weight to one side of the arguement then the only means men have left is to not have a relationship and still get into trouble minding your own business from some scornful woman who cannot get on with men and wants to blame and judge all man because of some stereotype she has in her head or just kill em and commit suicide as the pain of all the lies and injustice that has been lumped on you is so intense you cannot endure it anymore and your no longer in your right mind as whatever medication drugs can no longer douse the flames of the hell you have been put through from not being treated equal when it comes to the same rights as woman have surrounding being a human being or parent or partner until the balance is put back into the system and it is fair level even playing field so nobody is been favoured or given special priveleges the same rights woman want equal pay for equal work equal rights means just that equal until this happens men are not going to be dominated by feministic misandrist woman because they was born with natural inbuilt instinct these feminist women do not want equality they want division so they can rule and stand over people they do not respect nature and the human race and by no means do they nurture life they harbour hatred and have a victim mentality and play poor me look what everyone else is doing so they do not have to look at their own behaviour they are not interested in mediation or trying to get on for what is best for the whole man and woman and all inclusive between they want an arguement they want drama and these typical non producing solicitors who want to use the law to manipulate for wrongful purposes should be thrown in gaol thats who are the real master murderers they are loading the gun or I should say sharpening the knife and giving it to a person as the only means to defend himself against their corruption I speak up these days and keep loving and try to do nice things but not fall prey to all this propaganda being taught in schools and universities No sense in hating and being angry as you only convey what these feminist want to turn you into men need to be super nice and polite at all times be a gentleman so these violent woman who are abusing men underhandedly have no excuse or reason and we can call them out do not retaliate do not ever concede an inch to any of their lies just because your tired no we must stand united and keep voicing our experiences and truth and talk about how we are being infected by their disease of scorn and misandynistic behaviours Peace and be kind to your Mother
This is what bullies want you to do kick you out of your own home and take it from you no we need to take action it is when good men do nothing we need to be very respectful and do the opposite these hateful misandrynist woman are doing and act out only from love and put an end to their lies we need to uphold our integrity on every area of our life and take their reasons away and put their lies and manipulive indethanded self centred reasons on show and put it up for every person to see that they do not want equality or justice or what is gair they want what is not fair what is uneqal as they want to compete they do not want to stand beside a man they want to stand above and go against natural justice and nature it self and do what is not natural and have power over instead of with the whole human race they want to dovide and create single parents and not share they want to act gor self centred reasons and benefits and not have to work for anything they want everything their way and given to them as if they are entitled to it because it is not fair they was born the weaker sex they dont want men to help them anymore they want expect and take men for granted as men should just respect them without them needing to do anything in return No Im not running Im standing like david and goliath Im not going to be threatened by a selfish arrogant woman whose got no consideration for humans as a whole
Take it easy mate. As u seem aware of the position facing men, you can adjust your life accordingly. And a lot of young men are very loth to get married and have children these days in australia.
The later date suits me better because if it were this coming week I would embarrass you with my attendance - as it would be accompanied by my thoughts on the events post-defamation trial, tonight’s news being about BL paying Wilkinson’s husband some expenses for the Higgins memoire. Doesn’t get much more bizarre than that. I am developing a view about one person in the list of characters in this tragedy-comic drama, a list like in the preamble to a Russian novel, whom I believe has influenced a lot of apparently unrelated events/ideas.
What I think about the matter, and however much I want to share some thoughts with Bettina and all, is not important in the scheme of things. However, by the new August date for the conference, who knows what may have transpired.
I know you all have your own dramas in this area (I have dramas but not in this area), so I know the specific Lehrmann drama would use up a lot of energy you would normally direct elsewhere. I just want somebody to let me know that they know or are able to find out - that Bruce L has some people looking out for him. I
Given all the lying, manipulation etc by everyone involved in this case, I still question the final outcome. Perhaps not announcing a probability (if possible) would have meant one person could have their life back and one could have become less of a wealthier cult symbol. Perhaps without the ever expanding sexual assault laws the outcome would have been different. The case was blown out of all proportion because of its political agenda from the very beginning so justice for the only two people who know the truth was always going to be difficult.
I was accused of 17 accounts of abusing my own children, originally by my ex-wife and then by my two eldest daughters after they were brainwashed. I was found not guilty of all 17 charges, after a nine day trial that cost around $1 million.
Whether you’re innocent or not it doesn’t matter, your life is completely fucked after the four years of waiting to get to court to prove your innocent. Not being able to work because of the accusations on your police clearance and the mental anguish that it causes.
I think you just provided some evidence for my recent comment, the radicalisation of our women by a very small section of our community. Women, in my opinion, are actually responsible for our current situation, men do have something to answer for because we are letting it happen. Arj Barker is a hero, he stood up for himself under the evil eye of our media. Wait and see what happens there my friend. I hope you can find happiness, it is out there, just not in this country.
There is no compensation that will ever cover the losses you have faced but these evil women should be jailed and publicly exposed for their lies. Unfortunately they never consider the harm to the children but there’s a strong case for child abuse.
The children actually believe it because they are brainwashed by their mother. Everyone loves their mother no matter what right? I have seen it. The child loses touch with reality.
NEWS FLASH! Australian father, denied access and due process, related to children hidden and then retained in the USA since 2015 files in the Supreme Court of the United States. Mother then calls in DCYF on father's first access in 5 years. Sigh...
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/DocketFiles/html/Public/24-79.htm
The hysteria, dishonesty and blatant lies about DV related homicides in recent days has been appalling.
It's clearly a coordinated and partisan effort by misandrist elite women across the Australian media and political spectrum, to smear and denigrate all men as potential killers, and to scare the hell out of girls and women.
They're lying and misrepresenting reality, of course, as these awful people always do. Everyone should arm themselves with the actual data. A good source for NSW is BOSCAR - https://www.bocsar.nsw.gov.au/Pages/bocsar_pages/Murder-NSW.aspx#Chart02
You can see that homicides are broken into 4 different categories - 'Intimate partner', 'Family', 'Not DV', 'Other'. Check the definitions carefully.
When you drill down the stats overall and for different categories of homicide in this area, you'll see that the reality is very different to what's being portrayed - the numbers of intimate partner homicide, for example, are not very high at all.
The other huge takeaway is that in fact, these types of homicide are decreasing - the trend is a positive one, which is exactly the opposite of what is being peddled, and which they're suppressing.
A few other facts that the misandrists are suppressing :
- indigenous Australians have a massive overrepresentation in these homicides, both as perpetrators and as victims. The overrepresentation is even more significant given that indigenous Australians are avtony minority of Australia's overall population.
- indigenous women have a massive overrepresentation in female victims of these types of homicide. As I understand it, Australia wide it may be close to 50%.
- females constitute many of the perpetrators of child victims of domestic related homicides (infanticide).
- context: intimate partner homicides - the focus of recent hysteria - are a tiny fraction of all homicides.
- context: arguably, other homicide stats are more concerning in particular suicides of both men and women, although the suicide rates of men are at crisis levels.
- context: Australia's record when it comes to DV related homicide is as I understand it, better than most major G7/OECD nations.
I'm not interested in partisan fighting and the above isn't to downplay DV related homicides. Every death is a tragedy. However, we will get nowhere unless we base the discussion on reality and the real world.
What I find despicable about these misandrist elites is how they exploit aborigines, whom they regard as toys/pets that they own and can discard once no longer useful. As we saw in The Voice debate and in this one, they couldn't care less about aborigines at all and in particular, aboriginal women. If they did, they wouldn't be suppressing the truth. They'd be shining a cold, glaring light on what's happening in remote Aboriginal communities and they'd be demanding immediate and urgent action.
But of course, they don't. And why aborigines will continue to languish in misery in those hell holes for the foreseeable future.
The reality is that most of these elite partisan misandrists are frauds, shysters and con artists, grandiose narcissists, seeking to grift money, power, awards, and endlessly seeking narcissistic supply. Denigrating men and boys, scaring women, dividing men and women with lies, and exploiting the misfortune of others are just tools of their trade. It's shameful how weak politicians have allowed them to cause so much division, fear and trouble, and highly damaging to Australia.
Anyway, hope this helps. Pethaos other stats/data relevant to the discussion above could be added in replies.
Yes, exactly. This is the reason why I and so many others are now reffering to these rallies as places of radicalisation of our women.
https://www.aic.gov.au/publications/sr/sr46
Have a look here. This was released just days ago by the Australian Institute of Criminology. Yes, there is a small increase of intimate partner homicide where the deceased was a female. (there is no clear distinction where the asailant was of opposite sex though, if you find it please let me know. My reason for stating this is that I personally know of two gay female relationships that ended with violence, one being hospitalised.) Even with this slight rise, women being killed by their intimate partner is down 52% from 1989. The trend is going down. It is currently one of the safets periods to be alive here in Australia.
With regard to the $925,000,000 pledged to assist women escaping DV. I have a theroy as to why the women's groups aren't happy and why this amount of money isn't such a big deal. While this amount of money should assist up to 40,000 women escape DV, only about 30-40% of applications for the trial period of this experiment were accepted and the number is quite a bit lower than 109 applications per day, and this is why they are angry. It is my belief that what the women want is more punative rather than support.
In the 2021/22 year about 70 women were murdered, total. Over 700 took their own life. The female suicide rate is 10 times higher, so one would believe that if these women were doing what they are doing because they care for eachother, they would be quite upset that no money has been put forward to stem the female suicide rate. Let's be fair though, women aren'tgood at commiting suicide, there are a lot more women who fail at it than there are men, so the need for help in this area is not clearly defined by the succesful suicides, it should be defined by the succesful and unsucesful suicides.
I have a ; tattoed on my wrist, it is there both for me and for my wife, she attempted suicide in 2018. I can tell you, there is fuck all help for people in that situation, it is an area that would benefit greatly if they got a measly $100,000,000, but no, these selfish women want more, I strongly believe that want more men in jail.
Right on. Feminists don’t care about other women, if they did they would be campaigning for more help to prevent the suicide of women , which as you say is ten times the murder rate. But men can’t be blamed for womens suicide so feminists ignore it .
A good idea to reschedule, Bettina. If Lehrmann appeals, which I believe he will, you may well be able to time the conference with the appeal judgement - which many lawyers think he will win.
As a person who fought and won a defamation case, I know just how hard it is to play the game and win. Fortunately for me my case was instigated due to a couple who were very careless with how they defamed me. They delighted in the fact that everyone they spoke to believed them and I believe they got drunk on the attention they were getting. It was hard to turn most of these people’s belief, which made it easier for me, but the ones that did proved to be very helpful.
In the final meeting before court, this couple were still standing up for what they said, they were frightened but were resolute in their position.
As we left, my lawyer and I both provided their lawyer with a cover of the information we were going to bring to court, as required. My lawyer told me that based on what he had seen, I was going to take a very decent amount of compensation. I would put this couple out on the street as the court would take their house. I wasn’t really happy with that though. Two days later I received a full written apology and a pledge that this couple would set in motion a plan to right all that they had done. I had won, I got what I wanted. Six months later this couple divorced.
I just love it when I am right.
My last post here was quite some angry ramblings, slightly incoherant, but that is what happens when a person becomes angry.
For two days in a row I have read the ABC news (if that's what it's called these days), and for both days there have been reports from the radicalised women's groups about how bad the situation is for them. One woman murdered every 4 days by an intimate partner. Actually this number was then said to be false with (real words here) only 49% of females killed by a male being by their intimate or past partner.
"Please stop killing us" was one of the placards, well, this is actually happening with the homicide rate falling over 50% over the past 30 years.
Then I read how a ten year old boy who was living with his violent mother who was facing over 50 criminal charges and whose father had died. Child services still put this ten year old boy with his mother. His life was so traumatic that he got on a train to the end of the line and camped out at social services center, which due to funding and laws couldn't help him. Three years later at the age of 13 he was involved in a murder. This young boy's life was ruined by the system. Is there any assistance for him, no.
A small but highly vocal part of our community just got over $50,000,000 in funding to prevent a situation that really just isn't anywhere as bad as they think it is, yet signs like "I'f rather live with a bear" are acceptable. Men need to step up. We now have to fight fire with fire. We must turn out in droves to protect our young men from this scurge of radicalisation that is infecting our women, sadly they are getting votes. We must turn this around.
Please, check the ABC News (kinda wrong name there) for the details mentioned above.
One woman killed every four days is not many , what are the feminists whinging about? There are millions of women in Australia , and considering the attitude many have towards men these days,,ie. scorn and ridicule ,hatred and outright malice, it’s a wonder that even more women aren’t killed .
In fact this is a tribute to the patience and restraint of Australian men who are putting up with a lot from the feminists indoctrinated women of today.
The Prime Minister has parroted the feminists by saying “ disrespect for women causes domestic violence” what nonsense, what about the disrespect for men which is so common now.
Ohh, you are dangerously close to the truth there. Currently I am also conversing with a Facebook group called Brotherhood of Men. There is a ABC news story that was published yesterday that is claiming that over the past 32 years that the homicide rate is actually the lowest it has been since 1992, that includes homicide with a female victim. The actual numbers state that from 1989 to 2023 there were some 3,000 more male victims of homicide than there were female. 6,404 to 3,488.
It is interesting that the act of cherry picking is so extreme to those ready to prove a moot point that the people pushing this agenda seem to completely forget that men lose their lives ant close to twice the rate of females due to homicide, that men lose their lives due to suicide at a rate 3 times that of women, yet as it seems, no one cares.
Albo the Great (joke there) just commited over $50,000,000 toward female safety, I sure hope a sizable amount of that goes towards providing support for men long before they become homicidal (towards themselves included).
Women are safer now than at any other time , except for war torn countries , but this is not good enough for feminists , who always exaggerate the facts.
One woman killed by an intimate partner every four days they are claiming and this is probably right but spread out over a population of 27 million people it is a very small number .
Realistically you will never stop domestic violence , men and women living together will always cause conflict, and women must take half the blame , for provoking men in many cases.
If the PM had the guts to say something like this we would on the way to a balanced debate , but politicians are scared of losing the womens vote and so play the game , the media are to blame as well for sensationalising the issue whenever a woman is killed.
in case this is of interest, I have written a journal paper explaining all the flaws with the research on 'rape myths'. This is a link https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/13657127231217510
Um, now some serious stuff.
Our women are being radicalised, yes radicalised in probably the worst way. We are currently in this situation because of very small groups of women literally making mountains out of mole hills. Let me explain.
In the ABC news today (28/04/2024) there is a picture of a young woman holding up a sign saying "please stop killing us". How is a sign so radical so acceptable. This is a simple sign, but it is laying responsibility at the feet of every male in our country, she is effectively labelling every man as a murderer. I often get in trouble because I state that I am not responsible for what other men that I don't know do. These radical women simply won't stand for it when I say that I am not a perpertrator.
Based on "probability", all men are rapists or perpertrators of DV. Guys, lock yourselves up, or at least never ever get drunk again, never ever buy a woman a drink, possibly don't ever pay for her meal on a date, actually, probably best if you never ever date again. Women are dangerous. Yet, the next photo of one of these brave young girls growing up in what is possibly the safest generation ever, the sign states "Girls just want to (Have fun is crossed out replaced with) feel safe. The next sign reads "I'd feel safer with a bear".
What the fuck. All of these signs scream radicalisation at well over 120db. It is very likely that very few of these women have experienced DV or rape directly or indirectly, It is 100% that none of them actually understand what leads to DV because they are constantly being told that they are victims, that they deserve the right to go out and get as drunk as a skunk and be 100% safe. They are allowed to abuse their partners and their partners are then often held responsible, like I was!
The real problem is simple, if you back even the most placid dog into a corner and hurl legalised abuse at it, it, regardless of gender it will do one of two things. It will piss itself due to the stress and wish it was dead (read the male suicide rate of approximately 35 men per week, 7 per day, 2,455 per year that sadly very few people give a fuck about) or it will attack, (read the one female killed by a man known to them every four days).
Yes, what I just said is supposed to be as confronting as it is, it highlights a very well known aspect in psychology knows an the fight or flight response. In this case fighters become murderers and flighters just kill themselves.
Yes, we have a problem in our society, 35 fucking times bigger than these radicalised women and their hopeless supporters will ever realise, but they are so far down their path of radicalisation that they simply cannot understand the depths of position, a classic case of the Dunning Kruger affect.
How do we fix this? I really don't think it can be fixed under our current style of government. Small business is being screwed every day, yet is the biggest employer group out there. Big business makes decisions knowing how much their fines are and continue onwards regardless because it is profitable to pay the fines and do the crime anyway. Our government simply reacts in ways that don't really make sense. We have a whole generation of people who don't know what is real anymore, they are then told what to think. The next one deserves it's own catagory, alcohol.
Our alcohol laws desperatly need to be reviewed. If a person is pissed at a venue, the venue just removes them, then they are not the responsibility of the venue anymore, the patron walks the street, gets a taxi home or drives home. If they drive home, well drink driving is against the law and they might get caught, or they might have an accident and hurt someone in which case their insurance is also denied due to being drunk. Serious concequences for that. Accountability for one's own actions.
If a person walks the streets and get's into a fight, man on man, then they can get into trouble but they will claim deminished responsibility. Drunk people are forever vandalising our business, pissing and throwing up everywhere, breaking things and generally being a right pain in the ass. Do they get in trouble, no. Deminished accountability for one's own actions.
Sex while drunk. Fuck. Guys, don't do it, it's rape, but sadly it is often the girl who is drunk as well. No accountability for women, 100% accountability for men.
What is it when a person can claim deminished responsibility in some circumstances when drunk, but are held to full accountability in other situations? In my view, anything a person does when drunk, or anything that is done to them while in a state of intoxication, well they need to be responsible for both. Bad decisions are made when drunk, getting drunk is often a decision made by the intoxicated person, it then should be seen as anything that happens to and or what a drunk person does is in fact their responsibility.
Um, Bruce Lerhman is actually completely innocent. Um, the judge made a call on Schrodinger's cat without any undestanding that an observation is required to make any determinations as to the extance of the cat. In that room there were two people. Due to the sad fact that both Bruce and Brittany were unsatisfactory witnesses, there is only one true determination that could be made, that the court had insufficient evidence to make a judgement. I mean, whith what she said, that wasn't believed, when she stated that she felt the rape and was crying no, no, no, but then feels that a good sleep was in order directly after was the right thing to do. Then the wellfare check by the female security guard found that she was in such a situation that no special need was required also speaks to the probability that what happened in that room was not of a serious nature.
Back to the radicalisation of a very small part of our community. I believe that the judge is also part of this radical group, so are many of our politicians and all of our media, if they weren't then they would be standing up asking why the fuck are we ingoring the spiralling male suicide rate. Sadly, they simply don't care so be prepared for it to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.
Those insane "prefer a bear rather than a man" placards went 'viral' and was reported on by the mainstream media, where the DailyMail claimed that the "simple yet loaded question" (!) was "leading to breakups around the world". These aren't very small groups of women making mountains out of molehills -- there were tens of thousands of protesters across multiple cities in multiple cities over multiple days. This androphobia became a social contagion that very quickly spread to the highest government office in the country. Even "conservative" media and politicians are falling over themselves to spread this feminist disease. Liberal MP Nicolle Flint called for parliament to make it a legal offence to "offend, insult, humiliate, and intimidate women"!
We have lost the plot and tragically, your advice for men to isolate themselves from this rotting illness seems like the sanest thing to do. Not even conservatives care about men, it seems. We saw exactly the same thing happen in Ireland where the local women radically turned on their men to side with Team Women, and they hate it when you won't divide the world into two competing teams like they do and self-flagellate for Team Men. Gamma bias, women's in-group bias, and society's pro-female bias all get turned up to 11.
Liberal MP Nicole Flint represents the “conservative” feminists in contrast to the lefty feminist ,they wear business suits and conservative hairstyles, would never have tattoos or body piercings . But women like her are just as dangerous and what she said proves it.
But why didn’t Peter Dutton step in and stop her? he’s also a feminist ,an ex cop he’d have been trained to obey .
Flint’s proposal is a blatant attack on the freedom of speech .
I must thank JayBee for showing an interest in the scandal that hit the UK 2017/18 following the "collapse" of a series of Rape trials and the re trial of Ched Evans. Amongst those critical of both the Police and Crown Prosecution Service was the Chair of the Criminal Bar Association, Angela Rafferty. In response she pushed for a review of cases. She commissioned other research beyond the actions of the Police or CPS of holding evidence back from the court . In this, about the legal provision which prevents the defense presenting evidence of the complainants sexual behavior history, but does alow the prosecution to present evidence about the defendant, one finds the "smoking gun" that points to the CPS having internal guidance to prevent such evidence reach the court or if told to present it do so at the minimum. https://crimeline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/s41report.pdf
The report is long and detailed but contains at 131 "The Northumberland
Report recommends that “[the] CPS ensure that prosecuting counsel robustly oppose all
applications for the admission of section 41 material and if an application succeeds, further
seek to limit the ambit and quantity of such material to the minimum” (emphasis
added). This is contrary to all of the ethical and constitutional obligations of prosecuting
counsel. Parliament in enacting section 41 did contemplate that sexual behaviour
evidence could be relevant, admissible and necessary for a safe verdict. If an application
is clearly warranted and admissible through one of the four gateways in section 41, then
it would be ethically wholly improper for prosecuting counsel to oppose the application"
In other words the CPS issued instructions based on a Report which is feminist "advocacy research" produced by the feminist pressure groups. By contrast the CBA research included the experience of male complainants (victims), of which there were in fact a substantial proportion. I bring this up because overall the Ministry of Justice and CBA estimated that 25% of convictions for such sexual assault crimes were "unsound" due to various shenanigans about evidence. Generally the public "culprit" was "lack of resources" but in reality the "believe" mantra and CPS policy combined with pressure to get the number of convictions up pushed this. Unsurprisingly in subsequent years the number of cases going to trial fell by .... you guessed it 25%. Which then fired a continuing clamor in Parliament and the media to get the figures up by........ you guessed it again fiddling with the evidence; this time making it much harder for the Police to obtain phone/social media evidence!
It is interesting the the CBA Barristers (who have prosecuted and defended) agreed that the existing law then was too restrictive for a fair trial and this had been slightly ameliorated by the Court (Judges) taking into account the Human Rights of the defendant for a fair trial.
No this is the law in the UK at the moment. It seems many Barristers and Judges realise this and attempt to work with it to achieve a fair trial. But in the end the Law is made by Parliament which has been pressured by feminist lobbying to increase the numbers of convictions. The target is to increase the numbers imprisoned by any means possible; not to see justice is done. Scotland has a separate legal system and Assembly which is trying to end the right to trial by jury at the moment, again to "increase convictions". In terms of undermining the resumption of innocence and denying basic constitutional rights and human rights all these are examples. I don't know about Australia but II guess feminists there either have or will adopt this sort of thing.
Sorry, in the original email I wrote the name of the organisation Australians for Science and Freedom wrongly. Mental lapse. Amazing that got through, given that 4-5 people had checked it!!
So glad it will be live streamed as it promises to be wonderful. Thank you to all speakers for having the courage to be heard.
A suggestion tina. Some people (the brightest and richest) refuse to use links on the internet to enter credit card details to make payments. I KNOW it is more labour intensive but a phone number (manned hoho) would allow people to pay by VOICE phone contact securely. Alternatively, an address where a personal cheque could be sent would do. those who have no money in the bank or actually think that a bank will repay what scammers steal from you would not understand of course (most of the sheep).
thanks again for your efforts.
I do understand your concern but we just don't have the manpower to make this happen. The payments are being handled by ASF and they are too small an organisation to deal with the problem of receiving personal cheques which have to be deposited at a bank etc. I'm sorry about that. Of course everyone is welcome to watch in at TNT Radio.
“As I have explained, right now 400 current sexual assault cases are being audited by NSW public prosecutors to determine whether, as 6 judges have claimed, such cases are being pushed through to trial with insufficient evidence.”
Is precisely the same issue that caused a furor here in the UK 2017/18 Where the Ministry of Justice, a whistle blowing Barrister acting for the CPS, the Criminal Bar Association and even a documentary by the BBC all agreed 25% of convictions in the previous 5 years were “unsound” because of the Police and CPS conspiring to conceal evidence from the Court (and thereby the defense) as they pushed through cases. Here, as in Australia the catalyst was Judges either halting trials or issuing scathing reprimands to the CPS and or the Police. Linked to the collapse of the “Nick” historical abuse investigations and “believe” there was an all to brief outbreak of principle in our system. What was generally dodged was the obvious fact that if the Police and CPS are given targets to increase cases going to court then they are under pressure to take cases, however flimsy, to court appearance. Of course this reestablishment of principals (due process, innocent until proven guilty, fair trial) immediately caused a feminist backlash to reinstate the idea of “believe” and a presumption of guilt. Very evident in the Westminster, Edinburgh and Welsh Parliaments as they brought in legislation to further limit the defense evidence that is allowed, prevent the Police looking at social media texts etc., get the “gendered definition” written into abuse and harassment legislation and actually abolish the right to trial by Jury in Scotland.
It is a “men’s rights” issue as these attacks of fundamental principles of justice affect males disproportionately but of course they are also attacks on fundamental rights for all. For in how many other things would it be more “convenient” if the Crown (state) didn’t have to bother and simply assured the conviction and imprisonment without a process that tested the case “beyond reasonable doubt”?
Perhaps some participants could familiarize themselves with the reports of the Criminal Bar Association in England and Wales and the more recent Scottish CBA reports and representations on the issue of Jury trials to add this into the debate in Australia.
Thanks for this information - extremely interesting. Will check out the references you suggest.
These were the cases that were newsworthy at the time https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42758123 Though in fact it followed an internal investigation https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40638513 Alison Saunders eventually left quietly after denying https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/rape-trials-collapse-no-innocent-people-jail-disclosure-failures-dpp-alison-saunders-police-prosecutions-a8166746.html
This gives a good explanation of the Law and its effect https://inews.co.uk/news/long-reads/section-41-used-ched-evans-retrial-26959 In this case the evidence was of the woman's sexual behaviour at about the same time as the incident. Which was very similar to that described on the night of the supposed offence. In fact in the original trial there were two defendants Mr. Evans and a team mate, the latter was found not guilty at the time. Also in fact the woman had not wanted to proceed with the prosecution as she claimed she could remember nothing, this was a case that the Police and CPS decided to pursue. This latter was no doubt because a few months before this the Police Service in that area had been censured about its record on Rape prosecutions by an inspection. As the article also includes the politics around this case continued after with 40 women MPs (Labour) writing a letter protesting the verdict and use of "sexual history" (even though in fact the evidence used was pretty contemporary). This case and those that were "collapsed" with the collapse of the "Historic sexual abuse" case. Brought some scrutiny on the injustice in the system. By the way Ched Evans also won a £800.000 payout from his original defense team basically for not pursuing his case properly and using this evidence. As I say in the end the reintroduction of some due process infuriated the 40 Labour MPs and other feminists anf their lobbying bore fruit last year in legislation to curtail the police accessing mobile phones and thereby alowing evidence to be deleted, such as exonerated Liam Allan. I mention this all as a point of comparison with Australia, which may be different or the same, on the crucial point of the way the law is manipulated to deny some basic rights in the actions of the Police, Prosecutors and Lawmakers. All this is quite different, but linked, the guilty by accusation approach of the media.
As you say at the time the woman was 19 and the men both 22, all drunk. The way these things are reported, variations on damsel in distress really, is a whole other thing. But as you say the systematic injustice and the overt desire to achieve this in Law is really pertinent to the Conference. I hope these cases can inform some of the debate over there.
Well done Bettina. You are a champion for justice. I cannot come but I will donate to support the conference and watch online. Thank you so much for your work.
ANDREW MACLAINE-CROSS
Good work just been run over by woman on horses and attempted to whip me proven guilty thru nsw racing courts after being traumatised by process from past false dvo and losing childred house everything with no proof by solicitor showing ex how to tell lies and judge saying she needed no proof same thing happens thirty years latter by a woman That works at raceyrack where I work takes out apvo costs me $6000 on false allegations that I proved her to be lying and not allowed to be able to appeal grounds of costs and when I tried to file apvo on more substantial grounds and proven investigated evidence of assault and escalated behaviour as a result of was dismissed batemans bay court wendy harris registrar magistrate Dick
I have passed on information to Bettina about a family law firm that is actively advertising that the best way for a woman to secure 100% care of the children is to claim DV.
This is what is creating all this domestic violence against women after the fact of corrupt solicitors manufacturing evidence and misleading justice system. They need to treat the core of the disease not the sympton if they want to arrest the problem and prevent the killing it is an incurable disease but can be arrested at some point some people want to live in denial and blame what is happening solely on men after the fact and not look at themselves and how they are creating problem until they start putting out the spot fires feminism corrupt solicitors magistrates without balls your inevitably are going to get a wildfire
Unfortunately you are not alone, these vile, evil women and their supporters are growing in numbers and gaining strength. I hope you have been able to move on and have a reasonable life with support from friends and family. You certainly deserve it.
Thanks mate I keep moving no worries I act with love in my heart and I am grateful I am not that type of person who is so self centred and cannot see the bigger picture how these solicitors are using the law for wrongful purposes and actually cannot see how they are creating so much hatred and anger thru their lies and corruption that is killing our women if they are going to keep imbalancing the one eyed svales of justice by only adding weight to one side of the arguement then the only means men have left is to not have a relationship and still get into trouble minding your own business from some scornful woman who cannot get on with men and wants to blame and judge all man because of some stereotype she has in her head or just kill em and commit suicide as the pain of all the lies and injustice that has been lumped on you is so intense you cannot endure it anymore and your no longer in your right mind as whatever medication drugs can no longer douse the flames of the hell you have been put through from not being treated equal when it comes to the same rights as woman have surrounding being a human being or parent or partner until the balance is put back into the system and it is fair level even playing field so nobody is been favoured or given special priveleges the same rights woman want equal pay for equal work equal rights means just that equal until this happens men are not going to be dominated by feministic misandrist woman because they was born with natural inbuilt instinct these feminist women do not want equality they want division so they can rule and stand over people they do not respect nature and the human race and by no means do they nurture life they harbour hatred and have a victim mentality and play poor me look what everyone else is doing so they do not have to look at their own behaviour they are not interested in mediation or trying to get on for what is best for the whole man and woman and all inclusive between they want an arguement they want drama and these typical non producing solicitors who want to use the law to manipulate for wrongful purposes should be thrown in gaol thats who are the real master murderers they are loading the gun or I should say sharpening the knife and giving it to a person as the only means to defend himself against their corruption I speak up these days and keep loving and try to do nice things but not fall prey to all this propaganda being taught in schools and universities No sense in hating and being angry as you only convey what these feminist want to turn you into men need to be super nice and polite at all times be a gentleman so these violent woman who are abusing men underhandedly have no excuse or reason and we can call them out do not retaliate do not ever concede an inch to any of their lies just because your tired no we must stand united and keep voicing our experiences and truth and talk about how we are being infected by their disease of scorn and misandynistic behaviours Peace and be kind to your Mother
I suggest moving to a country where men have rights :-)
Unfortunately they tend to be the countries where NOBODY has any rights :-)
This is what bullies want you to do kick you out of your own home and take it from you no we need to take action it is when good men do nothing we need to be very respectful and do the opposite these hateful misandrynist woman are doing and act out only from love and put an end to their lies we need to uphold our integrity on every area of our life and take their reasons away and put their lies and manipulive indethanded self centred reasons on show and put it up for every person to see that they do not want equality or justice or what is gair they want what is not fair what is uneqal as they want to compete they do not want to stand beside a man they want to stand above and go against natural justice and nature it self and do what is not natural and have power over instead of with the whole human race they want to dovide and create single parents and not share they want to act gor self centred reasons and benefits and not have to work for anything they want everything their way and given to them as if they are entitled to it because it is not fair they was born the weaker sex they dont want men to help them anymore they want expect and take men for granted as men should just respect them without them needing to do anything in return No Im not running Im standing like david and goliath Im not going to be threatened by a selfish arrogant woman whose got no consideration for humans as a whole
Take it easy mate. As u seem aware of the position facing men, you can adjust your life accordingly. And a lot of young men are very loth to get married and have children these days in australia.
The later date suits me better because if it were this coming week I would embarrass you with my attendance - as it would be accompanied by my thoughts on the events post-defamation trial, tonight’s news being about BL paying Wilkinson’s husband some expenses for the Higgins memoire. Doesn’t get much more bizarre than that. I am developing a view about one person in the list of characters in this tragedy-comic drama, a list like in the preamble to a Russian novel, whom I believe has influenced a lot of apparently unrelated events/ideas.
What I think about the matter, and however much I want to share some thoughts with Bettina and all, is not important in the scheme of things. However, by the new August date for the conference, who knows what may have transpired.
I know you all have your own dramas in this area (I have dramas but not in this area), so I know the specific Lehrmann drama would use up a lot of energy you would normally direct elsewhere. I just want somebody to let me know that they know or are able to find out - that Bruce L has some people looking out for him. I
Given all the lying, manipulation etc by everyone involved in this case, I still question the final outcome. Perhaps not announcing a probability (if possible) would have meant one person could have their life back and one could have become less of a wealthier cult symbol. Perhaps without the ever expanding sexual assault laws the outcome would have been different. The case was blown out of all proportion because of its political agenda from the very beginning so justice for the only two people who know the truth was always going to be difficult.
Hope it is a huge success and gets the support u deserve.
I was accused of 17 accounts of abusing my own children, originally by my ex-wife and then by my two eldest daughters after they were brainwashed. I was found not guilty of all 17 charges, after a nine day trial that cost around $1 million.
Whether you’re innocent or not it doesn’t matter, your life is completely fucked after the four years of waiting to get to court to prove your innocent. Not being able to work because of the accusations on your police clearance and the mental anguish that it causes.
I think you just provided some evidence for my recent comment, the radicalisation of our women by a very small section of our community. Women, in my opinion, are actually responsible for our current situation, men do have something to answer for because we are letting it happen. Arj Barker is a hero, he stood up for himself under the evil eye of our media. Wait and see what happens there my friend. I hope you can find happiness, it is out there, just not in this country.
There is no compensation that will ever cover the losses you have faced but these evil women should be jailed and publicly exposed for their lies. Unfortunately they never consider the harm to the children but there’s a strong case for child abuse.
The children actually believe it because they are brainwashed by their mother. Everyone loves their mother no matter what right? I have seen it. The child loses touch with reality.
Unfortunately until they grow up...they see, but they themselves have been scarred for relationships into their own adulthoods
Happened to me, but on a minor matter. I'm a marked man for life and can never get a "Blue Card" should I ever need one.